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Meeko Gloom	Posted - 2006.01.29 16:59:00 - [1] Loot drones warp jammer drones PG reduction implants on launcher and guns skill to reduce reload time on guns, lanchers adaptive active hardener a working missile counter measures to say defender read Linkage i want to know Stop worring about the .000000% of us who fly titans/mothership and fill the holes and exploits in this game
Meeko Gloom	Posted - 2006.01.29 17:23:00 - [2] Originally by: Nyphur Originally by: Meeko Gloom Loot drones warp jammer drones PG reduction implants on launcher and guns skill to reduce reload time on guns, lanchers adaptive active hardener I don't recall any of this ever having been on the In Development page or even a planned feature. i no thats the problem
Meeko Gloom	Posted - 2006.01.29 17:40:00 - [3] Originally by: Maya Rkell No, it's YOUR problem. Ok im sry i forgot it is my problem when a raven at 5km has an unstopable attack, because of lack off working missile counters measures, but a nuetron cannon can easily miss the side of a barn with a tracking disruptor Originally by: Asurix on a raven i have 2 t2 invul fields and a kenetic hardener, then shield boost amp and xl booster i never touch the booster on 2x 1.4mil rats, it's unbalanced, shield tanking >>>> armor tanking or its my problem that a raven can tank with 3 hardeners easily, and keep all his low slots for cap and damage mods and armour tank have to use all there low to balance out resistances cuz we dont have a balanced hardener. what do you want me to do get a raven? Leave my blasterthorn for a railthron and have 3 rockets full of defenders, so i can pray i can take down some torps? pls forgive me it is my problem How can i fix my problem? then maya
Meeko Gloom	Posted - 2006.01.29 18:13:00 - [4] Originally by: HippoKing Originally by: Meeko Gloom Originally by: Asurix on a raven i have 2 t2 invul fields and a kenetic hardener, then shield boost amp and xl booster i never touch the booster on 2x 1.4mil rats, it's unbalanced, shield tanking >>>> armor tanking or its my problem that a raven can tank with 3 hardeners easily, and keep all his low slots for cap and damage mods and armour tank have to use all there low to balance out resistances cuz we dont have a balanced hardener. Originally by: Funshine Bear In my megathron, i happily tank 20 gankageddons without even touching my civilian amor repairer LOOK TEH MEGA IS TEH OVERPOWERED! TEH KWOTE PR0V3Z0RZ!!!!!!!!11111oneonehundredandevelentyonnelololololoneoneone! . thats bull**** even a moros would have to repair
Meeko Gloom	Posted - 2006.01.29 18:34:00 - [5] Edited by: Meeko Gloom on 29/01/2006 18:34:34 Originally by: Facechanger2 Meeko you're an idiot. You've been spamming all day long with the same crap and yet you don't listen. People explained to you why theres no adaptive armour hardeners, and also told you about the missile counters - you haven't even tried defender missiles yet and you impy they're broken. GO TEST FOR YOURSELF. On a lighter note - I've heard of them considering loot drones, but not warp jamming drones. They would be far too overpowered. Yea they work just fine if your 50km+ but you go test under 10km, I will see the results when you go home in an egg. Also what do you tell to the geddon, domi, punshier, incursus, vexor, maller, rax etc pilots about countering missiles? I would like to see the caldria not being able to fit tracking disurptors hehe it would never happen
Meeko Gloom	Posted - 2006.01.29 18:43:00 - [6] im never said anything was wrong with ammo, there is no working solution to counter in thats all. when have i ever talked about ammo?
Meeko Gloom	Posted - 2006.01.29 18:53:00 - [7] also im a n00b pls explian the difference between shield and armor tank maya
Meeko Gloom	Posted - 2006.01.29 19:15:00 - [8] Originally by: HippoKing Originally by: Meeko Gloom also im a n00b pls explian the difference between shield and armor tank maya i'll help. shield tanking has higher boost per second, and a recharge that is neglible on practically every ship (ferox is one it is useful on). armor tanking on the other hand has higher efficiency, works beter with fewer slots, is easier to fit and has higher base resists. thats ok? then y if armor has high base resistances y is the raven the best tanker
Meeko Gloom	Posted - 2006.01.29 19:43:00 - [9] Originally by: Meeko Gloom Originally by: Xeios Originally by: Meeko Gloom Originally by: Jon Xylur There is no adaptive hardener cause thatwould make armour tankers tank better, which would amke all the Caldari whien that something actually has a change of tanking the allmighty Raven. And since half of the playerbase is Caldari, CCP has to give them all the best stuff. good point i forgot about how much the Caldari whine their asses off, missile nerf this, gallente carrier that. Want some cheese with that? You cannot base your argument on the basis that every **** and his dog are exploiting with cpr's. This will be resolved and when it is things will go back to how they should be. That is why u do not get invul hardeners. well my argument is that a raven can have 3 invul on have great resistances, but on my mega i have to load all my lows by the way takes away from cap and damage mods to have a decent tank, while the raven can still has his low for his dam mods and cap etc. also i have to have 800 charges to keep my tank correct, then i have a blastertron so i have to fight close, not metion im figthing a raven, and cuz hes using missiles i have no what to counter it correct? (dont anyone ***** say defenders). Even if i did have a new working way to counter missiles i couldnt use it cuz my cap booster is taking my last mid slot because i have to have use all my low to cover every type of resistances, cuz a raven can pick his damage and cuz i have no adaptive actice hardener So i dont no what to do? dont fight ravens and y is typing y such a big deal to you u flamed me on that like 2-3 months ago???
Meeko Gloom	Posted - 2006.01.29 19:53:00 - [10] Originally by: Maya Rkell Yes, this is a known issue. The consensus is that large blasters are underpowered. The Raven's fine. (PS, with the armour reistance skills the energised nano membrane II is considerably BETTER than the invulnrability field, since it dosn't drain energy) 1st i no they r underpowered, and i never said anything about that, but you still never agreed with me when i said we need a way to counter close range missile attacks 2nd im aware of that may be you can help me with my setup 7 named ions 1 nos 1 mvd 1 fleet web 1 warp jammer 1 named cap booster 1 accom repair 3 'refuge' resisance plating 1 thermal 1 explosive 1 kintic i get above 77-85% on all of my resistance currently work on adv weapons so i can swap a resisance plating with a 1600 plate all i want is a all around hardner so i can fit some damage mods
Meeko Gloom	Posted - 2006.01.29 20:31:00 - [11] Originally by: HippoKing Originally by: Meeko Gloom may be you can help me with my setup 7 named ions 1 nos 1 mvd 1 fleet web 1 warp jammer 1 named cap booster 1 accom repair 3 'refuge' resisance plating 1 thermal 1 explosive 1 kintic ok. top setup help is.... fly frigates or cruisers till you learn to fit your ships. doing that to a BS is criminal listen i no how to fit my ships ok tell that to the buritx pilot i kill in my tristan yesterday k what im saying that have to all of that to have a great tank or they could make active adaptive hardeners. my lows really look like this 3 hardeners 1 accom repairer 1 damage mod 1 1600 plate 1 cap relay ok that is a decent k with the skils i have anyways you still never said anything about y there arent working countermeasures against missile at close-range. should they be a track disruptor like med slot countermeasure?
Meeko Gloom	Posted - 2006.01.29 20:49:00 - [12] Originally by: Katjia my counter for missiles.... JAM the living bejeesus outta the raven...tanking fofs is really easy. Explain how you would do that in a geddon???
Meeko Gloom	Posted - 2006.01.29 20:54:00 - [13] Originally by: Maya Rkell Countermeasures: target jamming tanking (study what damage ravens usually do) smartbombs (you DID say close range) kill the raven I don't agree there's another countermeasure needed. Jamming yea ill try to jam a raven/scorp in a geddon smartbombs yea ill try that in jita right after i undock and get into it with a raven good one never thought of that one

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